Infinity Ward’s Executive Producer Mark Rubin is very confident on the graphical quality of the upcoming Call of Duty: Ghosts, especially due to a “a semi-dramatic change” to the internal art production pipeline.
@N7Lukas: it's actually very possible that he's not talking bullshit on this one. "Above Next gen" simply means that the art assets of the game are higher resolution than what PS4 and Xbox One can handle, and they get sized down separately for each platform in order to get the best result on each.
Which is what every developer should do really. But many don't.
PS: LOL @ "cod troll". FYI I really, really dislike COD games. Doesn't mean I can't recognize that they don't lie every second especially when what they say does make sense technically.
Yea right, because this typical bullshit PR doesn't happen every single year with COD. If you believe this crap, your a fool!
This article is full of fail!
"Art assets" are always taken at a higher resolution & scaled down, this is absolutely nothing new, in fact its stupid to even question that. They may have not been taken at such a high resolution in the past because there was no need before until the hardware caught up but its certainly nothing new & obviously other devs will also now be doing the same now that the hardware has caught up.
How do you think Skyrim released the HD pack in the first place??? do you honestly think they went back to the drawing board & recreated all their textures from scratch or just rescaled the ones they already had!?
Come on use at least the slightest bit of common sense!
After revamping Skyrim with the right mods, Skyrim is one of the most beautiful games I have ever owned and played.
I just wish it had more enemy variation and that some dungeon layouts were less similar.
Other than that, the game is top notch. 30 hours in and I'm maybe half way through. Keep in mind I like to explore and venture off the main quest path. Still, I'm sure it's a long game without all the extras, but the extras are what sweeten this game up.
Abriael usually I agree with you, but really? EVERY game uses above "next-gen, CG quality" RENDERS as assets first, and those are then scaled down to fit the system. EVERY game.
They have a few high poly renders, and they spread this bullshit to entrance the masses.
CoD Ghosts looks worse than a few current-gen games I can show you. It is unarguably one of the worst looking next-gen games shown so far.
Naughty Dog and many others already do this. Having hug resolutions/assets that get scaled down. These guys are playing catch up an boasting like they're ahead. Fish AI all over again, they just don't know how to promote this CoD properly.
It is called normal mapping and tessellation or hyper nurbs with displacement. All of these techniques are boosted by higher resolution texture maps and better polygon culling. Ram and compression is needed to do these with great effect. So yeah everyone will be doing this.
skyrim was a test to see if pc gamers would buy console quality games and it worked.
It makes it a little harder to believe from devs that reproduce the same shit every year. If it was a credible, respected dev that actually innovates then maybe it would be a little more believable.
Well all i know is i'll be getting WiiU version,Activision has confirmed it uses the same upgraded engine as xbox one and ps4 and it will be the first true Nextgen version on 5th nov can't wait,i love BO2 wiiu....
@Falcon97-What if that "Upgraded" engine could also be used on PS3/360? And funny how you say it's the first true next-gen when they only talked about the dog & the fishes moving, lol.
It's called PR. Most gamers don't know that assets are created in really high resolution then ported down to consoles.
I think if this is good news for COD. It means we'll see a notable different between current and next-gen platforms. This may finally be next-gen COD, at least from a graphical standpoint.
that's exactly what it is... damage control... think about it.. There's a reason theyre going to show the big "MP reveal" before Gamescom. The same reason they showed the big SP reveal before E3, they knew it would be lackluster, and they wanted to try to hold as much attention as they could for the short e they could. They had to get it out there before the big competitors (BF, Titanfall) showed what they had.
I totally forgot that they did the SP reveal before E3. Oh well it'll be the same this time around as well. Ubisoft has a game to show, Black Tusk still has there exclusive for Microsoft and Sony still has 15 exclusives to show for the PS4 and The Order: 1886 gameplay.
I'll have forgotten all about the MP for Ghosts after Gamescom.
maybe not the entire industry, but a hell of alot of them. Especially in the FPS genre... CoD is actually really behind the times.. it's pretty much only surviving now by 12yr old nerd whiny fanboys and 30yr money grabbin Youtubers, that will hate and gripe about the game 5 months after release, but continue to post it anyway for the views.
Its like they're only aware of their own game, they're so in love with it that they are blind to what else other devs are doing that blow whatever they are doing out of the water.
you can use a lot of arguments against COD, its stale, doesn't change much each year etc. But to say its only surviving by 12yr olds and 30yr old youtubers is the dumbest argument there is. It's the #1 game every year, as far as sales and people actually playing the game. SOMEBODY must like it no? You don't, fine, but to be the #1 game each year without fail and consistently make over a BILLION is unmatched in the gaming world. It's probably the most hated franchise out there, but its also the most loved. Numbers don't lie.
Exactly. Someone with logic. Everyone calling BS yet they haven't seen anything really yet. I have no idea what to expect from that comment, but like you, I will actually wait and see before I make judgment. How do you have 3 bubbles? I bubbled you up brother.
Really? From what I saw, it looked pretty much what many people expected for a multiplat launch game. Do you not remember launch games for this generation that were ragged on for looking like Xbox and PS2 games? I am not expecting a leap graphically till a few years, but I expect them to take advantage of the more power systems and the ability to enhance the gameplay. That is what I will wait and see.
Since i will buy it anyway because of my brothers i'm still interesting on what they will do even though i'm expecting the same disappointment ..
At least i managed to lower the amount of discs that we will buy , instead of buying 5 or 6 discs we will buy just 2 :P . hehehehe
People are tired of cod . My brothers stopped playing it. only the younger one. I didn't even couraged them to go against it. They just feel like everytime they release a sequel it gets worst not better. If i had the power i would make a COD4 remake wit the same vision , that would be the only good thing they could ever do to cod..
I personally enjoyed Black Ops2. I think IW's next COD will be COD4 like in the sense it will raise the bar in all areas. With new consoles being launched and other games stealing the limelight, I really can't see COD continuing on the same path and surviving very long.
@JeffGunz- I highly doubt it, since most of the old Infinity Ward staff left Activision & formed Respawn and are working on TitanFall with EA being the publisher, it was by far the most impressive game at E3 followed by others like BF4. Also you got to keep in mind Activision took Guitar Hero from developer Harmonix, and soon after that the series have being over milked until it totally flopped, while Harmonix made Rock Band and outclasses it, as well as Tony Hawk being wned by Skate. Even the Spiderman games have being horrible with the exception of Shattered Dimensions, 007 games were alright. Fast & Furious, Nascar, Activision is horrible as a publisher, with so so devs, aren't as good as those from EA.
again, its the most preordered game this year for north america (a big fooking country) you cannot kill this franchise as much as you all whine and scream for it.
i'd say skyrim had a 2 hour main campaign not a 4 hour, side missions dont count
from reading what the loud typing game community has to say, it's come to me that most of them are idiots that ruin the idea of a good story with their shit and very limited imaginations and their will to outsmart someone (impossible)
just look at the last of us, was joel an angel or a demon? about 97% of answers were wrong, its shocking how many of them didn't get the game.
skyrim is for nerds and cod is for chavvy children, theres no need to make a pissing contest out of a paragraph.
Stop putting me off games please and concentrate in the more PHYSICAL things in your life
COD ghosts per orders are way down from last year. Activation know this series is on the decline. Many people, like myself, have abandoned the series because it hasn't changed enough to warrant a purchase.
You say "many" but I don't see stats or sources. The reason they gave, people not knowing which console they want it on makes sensefor their numbers to be down. Once the mp mfootage rolls around pre-orders will spike.
Check out the pre order numbers for "stats". Someone from Activison just the other day said "next gen is to blame for COD Ghost's low pre order numbers."
Here's the n4g article and if you click on it, Activision blames the next gen transition for CoD: Ghosts's preorder sales being lower than Black Ops 2. It's really pathetic, honestly. It's just starting to show a lot more that the whole franchise uses the copy and paste formula. Trust me on this, it isn't the first time they said that they're using an entirely new engine.
That's what I wanted to hear especially from activision. We will see if they really do it. Ill be looking forward to lens of truth and digital foundry to get the answers.
is that what i wrote? i said stop whining about it being shit, it will not be killed as easilly as you want it to be, the evidence is there: the above next gen thing is just the sub D it was used in films so thats where all of the billions is being spent
A. One of your guys already admitted in a video that came out right around E3 that the engine for Ghosts would in fact NOT be NEW like you hacks had been yapping about prior to E3 but just an updated version of an engine like you've been all along !
B. And now you're running your mouths about assets this above next gen that, how about lazy bums actually master and make the most from this current gen before even thinking about next gen much less whatever comes after that.
Now its just pathetic to hear you guys carry on about anything related to graphics or gsmeplay fir that matter. You've been crapping out the same turd year after year this whole gen and will continue to do so come next gen.
gamers have no clue how games are made.im actually making some badass lvls n characters.u can iuse high res textures n normals i make in zbrush or mudbox for wat u call detail n then put it on the low poly model in maya.games need engines to render real time lighting n effects n animation guys stick to maya since it can render high end stuff.there are many knobs to control resolution..LEARN MAYA zbrush n photoshop N UNREAL THEN TALK GHX.go to expression college n learn a thing or to
Skyward Sword has competent fish AI and that is a Wii game. If they think that that's the defining line between this gen and the next then I don't expect Cod to stay for long.
Not sure, if they are retarded, or just try to convince kids to buy it again for full price. Cinematic quality...sure...next-gen brand new engine...of course.
love how people talk about innovation like its such an easy task. cmon people get ur head out of ur asses! what would u like next? sharks with lasers on there heads??? how about some crazy game modes??? really i would like to see what innovative idea you guys can come up with right now..something thatll blow ur minds away.. anybody???
O man, I see a Birds AI announcement incoming! these guys are going to go for it! Interactive smoke AI for fish Dogs Birds (you know its coming) Battlefield has destructable buildings, but no AI fish! --- To any fanboy of call of duty, they brought this to themselvers during the xbox one reveal "call of duty for the next generation" "New engine" (wich was a fucking lie!) "Dogs" "AI fish" Its like they were asking to be laughed at
Had to check the article out to see if they actually did they say that.
They did
Are they not aware of an entire industry doing what they're doing, and better in most cases?
Why does it seem like there's a lot of damage control going on for COD ghosts? It's like they're trying to convince us this time COD is different.
maybe not the entire industry, but a hell of alot of them. Especially in the FPS genre... CoD is actually really behind the times.. it's pretty much only surviving now by 12yr old nerd whiny fanboys and 30yr money grabbin Youtubers, that will hate and gripe about the game 5 months after release, but continue to post it anyway for the views.
Heard it all before.
And the invisible hype begins.
This all sounds amazing and great for the next gen until you realize it's infinity ward saying it...
It does sound like something that should be the norm for every dev. That being said.