In Cologne last month, Nintendo's public Gamescom showfloor booth let you play Pikmin 4 and Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. But behind the scenes, the company had more up its sleeves.
As per VGC : Another VGC source claimed that Nintendo showcased Epic’s impressive The Matrix Awakens Unreal Engine 5 tech demo – originally released to showcase the power of PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X in 2021 – running on target specs for its next console.
The demo is said to have been running using Nvidia’s DLSS upscaling technology, with advanced ray tracing enabled and visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles
If the next Nintendo system can run Matrix Awakens @ 1080p even with DLSS performance mode @ 30fps ... that's still insane ... Coz, Imagine what the already remarkable Nintendo first party can achieve even more ... If Nvidia manages to supply even a decent future-proof SoC and continues to support software wise with DLSS 3.5+ & beyond .... man ... good things await ... lets wait n watch
Nintendo will release a severely underpowered gaming system that will seem too expensive for what the hardware offers. Nes fanatics say they don't care about hardware power but only care if nintendo offers it which they would love it. Soon people will be saying the new Nintendo console will be running crysis at 4k 120fps.
There are handheld devices out now that are way more powerful than what the successor to the nes-switch will be. The "switch 2" won't be as expensive as a lot of handheld gaming systems available but I believe it'll be priced similarly to a steam deck or a little cheaper.
I don’t expect a super powerful console. I leave that up to Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo however push every little ounce out of weak hardware and make some amazing games.
@Jin_Sakai Nobody's expecting a "super powerful console" ... as I stated: DLSS'd 1080p @ 30. Just saying, that Nvidia's SoC and DLSS have come a long way, and a modern Nvidia solution (even in handheld format) will offer Nintendo first party devs, helluva lot perf uplift compared to the current Switch.
Few things wrong with this. First, the Matrix Awakens 'runs' on a Series S so a PS5 or Series X power isn't required. Full stop. Even if the use the Series S as the Switch 2 spec we run into another issue:
The Series S uses about 75 W when gaming. The Steam Deck runs about 15 W (while also being able to run the Matrix Awakens). The Steam Deck while amazing for a handheld goes for the same price as a digital PS5 BUT is less powerful than a PS4.
And while the the Switch 2 can have a dock that brings it up to Series S, using DLSS to smooth out the rough edges, it does feel very Anti-Nintendo to be using current tech that would be required to get PS5 levels of graphics out of their new system.
People were complaining about Sony not building a portable PS5 and I promise you Nintendo, won't be building one either. I don't think even Nintendo can ship a $600 console and I know Nintendo always aims to make a profit off their hardware. So the Switch 2 will only be as powerful as they can make it without losing sales or profit.
except all those systems you listed are based on power hungry x86 architecture whereas the Switch will most likely continue to use ARM, 1080p30 with DLSS3 while docked doesn’t seem far fetched to me
Edit: I’d expect between ps4 and ps4 pro performance from the GPU, the CPU will be a bit underpowered depending on which cores they use & the transistor density they go with. Prob Samsung 7nm so can expect flagship 2019 phone performance on the cpu
I don't expect it to best PS5, but if it can at least run everything PS5 can, and maybe outperform Series S along the way, I'd gladly drop some $ on it to get some of those great Nintendo games.
The trouble is that unreal 5 games are already struggling a bit on the main consoles never mind what it will run like on a new Switch. If I was buying the new Switch it's mainly for the first party titles and not so much third party.
Made my comment, assuming the Matrix UE5 demo rumor is true. (That is possible ... let's say, Nvidia offers something like a customized version of something like their Orin Nano or something better(?) for Switch 2 ... i.e Samsung 8nm, 6x Cortex-A78, 1024 Ampere cores, 8 GB RAM ... as well as DLSS 2/3+ support. It can run, fairly modern games with help of DLSS) But as I said above and echoing what you said ... Nintendo's first party games would be really interesting. The DLSS 2+ here will do all the heavy lifting going forward and this will enable the Nintendo devs a huge uplift in available computing power (on top of the silicon upgrade) to harness and put to use. And will also help 3rd party devs in porting their games to the platform.
Nintendo will never sell its hardware at loss. Atleast not a successful one. If they come out with a new one in 2024 I doubt their next console with have same specs as PS5/XSX
I saw someone with one in the lunch room at work once, then again, my area is slowly become a low socio-economic area (aka, a centerlink dumping ground). So maybe people aren't so keen to take them along outside their homes, I wouldn't risk it.
If I was a kid, I'd take it on a car trip while my parent's drove (back when I enjoyed Pokemon Yellow on the Gameboy), but these days, I'm the one doing all the driving by myself. I don't think I'll ever have a good opportunity to leave the house with it and actually enjoy the device.
I mean I’m just talking about my city’s and surroundings so I’m guessing other places would be different but usually everyone is on their phones. I’ve even seen the odd person still will their 3DS and the like.
I think it’s just such a fragile, expensive item that in some places people are less likely to take them with them anywhere unless on holidays or long trips in the comfort of a car. It’s not as easy to hide or quickly put in your pocket aswell like their other handheld consoles.
It’s not like if something happened to your Gameboy you’d be like “shit, well I’ll go home boot up my GameCube and play some Luigi’s Mansion” because this thing is your main console.
If they gave people a choice and let people just stick with a docked version I’d love it, especially if they gave us an updated Gamecube styled controller over the Joy cons
I would have loved it if Nintendo had made a Pro version that was dock only, especially if it had more power than the other version, maybe they'll do that with the Switch 2 (probably not though, since the hybrid system is such a winner for them). Personally I don't mind the Joycons, but I never got the dreaded stick drift either.
I don’t mind the hybrid if it was powerful enough but not sure it will be. I’d like for a dock that adds computing power to the machine and still be able to be handheld with lesser power . I doubt they do that because it would cost more but that would be cool.
It's overdue. My issue is gonna be if they recycle the same tired stuff. There's quite a few dormant titles they need to bring back, if it's the same Mario Kart with no DKR style single player then it's a no buy from me. There's only so many times you can keep recycling the same game and only upgrade the graphics and that's it.
I can’t believe they haven’t done a DKR or even Crash Team Racing single player with a hub along with little challenges to do in each race (CTR Tokens / Coloured Gems / Time Relics etc)
Having the exact same structure again is going to get tiresome.
They really phoned it in with the switch library. No big risks, nothing interesting or quirky. Very by the numbers main franchise entries. That and ports. Lots of ports. As a long time Nintendo fan, I much preferred the DS, Wii, Wii U, 3DS libraries. Hopefully this sales success will prompt some new and interesting ips and games again, Mario Wonder looks like a step in the right direction.
I hardly think it will even be on the same level as PS5/Series X. I like my OLED Switch but, maybe with DLSS and upscaling games can just about look as good as current gen with compromises.
If it’s backwards compatible I’ll be in heaven. Day 1 for me. I love the Deck for the things I can’t get on Switch, but love the switch for physical copies and it’s (comparatively) tiny profile and excellent 1st party.
It sounds nice but unrealistic I don't buy this rumour that a portable device is able to run the matrix awakens demo to the level of even a series s.
I'd expect Nintendo to downclock whatever the next system is for battery life extension and portability look at the hardware of the switch compared to portable PC devices which run way hotter and have less battery life.
I want to believe but the switch 2 rumours are so loaded that you'd think everyone's uncle works for Nintendo.
DF apparently was meant to have been involved in this presentation but outright denied it.
Day 1 for me as well! I held off on buying a steam deck and other portable pc for the switch 2! Good thing that Nintendo will keep up with the growing competition in the handheld market.
I agree but I think the digital version of the game is the only possible backward compatible. Still hoping that it will happen to the switch 1 physical games as well.
Who is ready to play the same old Nintendo games being repackaged and hardly remastered, two versions of the same Pokémon game, and maybe a new release from a Nintendo IP every five years? I know I am not so I will not be buying this. I have lost faith in Nintendo during the middle of the Switch lifecycle.
Without knowing specs or at least what kind of SoC will power this system everything said is merely speculation, I don't believe that it will be as or more powerful than a Asus Rog ally and than there's the pricing, if they're charging for a completely obsolete tech console with 7 years on the market 350eur, how much will they ask for the new one?
Switch 2 has nothing to offer. There are allready full windows11 pc handhelds with z1 extreme that have 8core 16 threads cpu and boost up to 5.1ghz..gpu with rdna3 which goes up to 2.7ghz..with fsr2/3/rsr play everything 50-60fps high settings. Starfield play better than on Ally than my series x version matching fidelity on 7inch screen(doesnt need 4k for such screen) and solid 30fps on big citys and 40 to 60fps elsewhere. 120hz low latency VRR amd premium freesync fhd screen. With user changable ssd, easy as ps5 ssd swap. Have 1tb corsair mp600 mini on mine.it emulate switch gamers better than the switch itself. If you want the ultimate Docked handhel you can buy external gpu up to rtx 4090 and link to your 4k tv/monitor.
Im not so worried about the power, most likely switch 2 will be less powerfull than what the average person expects, but hopefully the switch 2 will be a step forward that makes it possible for nintendo to fill a world like zelda botw with all the magic they really want to with ok performance. The questions im most excited about is, will they create a type of miiverse social plattform/hub? Will their friends system etc improve ? Will the main layout improve ? Will they add and improve their snes/n64 etc catalog setup ?
And of course.. any new ips coming ? Would love to see a ARPG from nintendo with kid friendly nintendo magic that can supplement diablo/PoE. Or a diddy kong racing/dk64/b&k successor without having any direct link to them. And maybe the console will be strong enough to handle 3rd Party games like COD, Baldurs gate, PoE 2, rocket league etc with stable fps and high resolution. Would be a fine bonus. Rocket league is unfortunally unplayble on switch imo.
How embarrassing that they have Mario Kart on display. a game that's effectively 9 years old. People pay good money to travel to these conventions and the publishers put zero effort into it. just embarrassing.
As per VGC : Another VGC source claimed that Nintendo showcased Epic’s impressive The Matrix Awakens Unreal Engine 5 tech demo – originally released to showcase the power of PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X in 2021 – running on target specs for its next console.
The demo is said to have been running using Nvidia’s DLSS upscaling technology, with advanced ray tracing enabled and visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles
I doubt it but I really hope they let us choose between a standard portable version or a home docked one but with more storage.
I never take mine out the house, and in my city anyway, travelling a lot for work I never see anyone on the bus / metro playing them.
Ooo would love a trailer soon with a release in March again, but other rumours put the release at later next year. Either way, it's about time.
Day 1
As long as it’s BC idc we have PS5/Xbox/PC for top of the line graphics.