Spot the difference: Infinity Ward’s Mark Rubin on next gen Call Of Duty’s resolution disparity

"Ps4 looks better. But does it matter?"

It mattered this generation apparently, when 360 had smaller multi plat advantages over PS3 than what we see with CoD:G and BF4 on PS4/XB1. People on here made those smaller differences into big bragging points.

Cerebral, graphical quality does matter, especially for next gen systems, otherwise if its all about the gameplay then people may as well buy the current gen version. 360 will have the same story, same MP maps, same gameplay, same FPS, even the same resolution.

One of the main reasons people want next gen versions of games is the leap in visual quality, and the PS4 has the better looking games (so far). The only gamers who don't think graphics are important the Xbox fans. if it was the other way around I'm sure PS4 fans would be saying the same thing and I'm sure Xbox fans would be making the same comments about PS4 being underpowered and laughing at 720p games.

I agree graphics aren't what make a game. But for me to spend 500$ on a console and get an inferior product it makes it harder to justify.

Grave, you aren't comparing apples to apples. Yes, the Xbox One costs $100 more. It also comes with Kinect 2.0. If you are not a fan of Kinect and what it brings to the table, then the Xbox One might not be for you. If having the additional hardware and features is worth it to you, then the $100 differance is also worth it.

@Mystic,
The PS3 was supposed to crush the 360 with it's "Cell" processor and Blu-ray drive which was going to make the PS3 a "TrueHD" game console. When the inferior console had better multiplats it was completely unexpected. The entire generation Xbox 360 owners knew they had the power disadvantage. Same holds true for this generation coming up. Xbox One is technically less capable on paper with it's complex eSram setup. If and when we see a better multiplatform game on the Xbox One, it will be a bigger deal then a "better" port on a "better" system.

does it matter????? Well of course it matters. I mean you have a choice. The systems haven't released yet. You still can get the more powerful system for 100.00 less. Of course it matters.

@Death

But have they shown any games that really take advantage of Kinect? I mean justify your purchase however you want, I don't care what people spend their money on. But c'mon, they spent more money building that damn camera than the console and it already shows. Personally I don't see why the camera makes it okay to have the lesser version of games. They haven't shown anything useful enough to justify gimping games over in my opinion. Way too much tech in that damn thing that goes unseen by the people who are actually buying it.

Correct Death the price difference is because of Kinect, actually even the first Kinect cost more than $100 so its actually cheaper. If you dont like Kinect thats a seperate matter, fact is Kinect comes standard thats the price difference. Also just because 2 launch games have a lower resolution than ps4 does not mean it will be that way going forwa rd, its all about more time with new eSRAM, sdk's, dev tools which micro excels at and optimizing, sure ps4 may still have a small edge in multis throughout the lifecycle but it wont be a 1080p vs 720p difference. In fact 1080p games are already launching on X1 unlike 360 which means like every gen previous it will only improve.

Of course X1 will ge better, but it doesnt change the fact that the Esram is a bottle neck. While X1 improves, so does PS4. Kinect is just a casual seller, trying to tap into that Nintendo Wii fanbase. Until the X1 gets a Sku that is Kinectless, the X1 isnt worth the price of admission.

why would it not matter? between the ps4 and xbox one they are both going to be exactly the same, except the ps4 version will look better. Which would you buy?

@Jokes: That is the most laughable bit of PR spiel I've heard in a while. eSRam is a bottleneck, and if the Xbox One can't get Call of Duty, a game running an engine that's 10 years old, to run at 1080p despite the magic and rocket science that's gone into the development of the console, then it's not going to get much better. The fact that there are already games where the PS4 has a 50% better resolution than the Xbox One, at launch no less, is very telling that the PS4 is simply going to continue to outclass the Xbox One for it's entire life and we'll definitely see more games where PS4 is 1080p and Xbox One is 720p.

This is Call of Duty Jokes, not some graphically intensive game. Call of Duty. The only game that runs at 1080p on the X1 is Forza and it had to sacrifice day/night cycles and weather effects to do it.

Stop deluding yourself. The resolution isn't really important, but lying isn't doing you any good.

if you dont care about graphics, why participate in next gen at all?

Stick to playing atari.

I don't care if the difference isn't huge. It's just funny to see everyone not caring now but when the ps3 multiplats were looking a tad worse all the fanboys gloated. Many big gaming sites used it as one of the reasons to buy a 360 over ps3. Now the tables have turned and it's not a big deal anymore. I'm sure in time they will look equal.

Of course it doesn't matter, because the Xbox is the inferior console this 'round about.

If the PS4 version was 720p and the Xbox was 1080p, we'll hear it for the next 8 years how it really really matters for multiplat games.

@ gravelord lets be honest, if it negatively impacts the console of choice they will say its not important. Its a win/win lose/lose for everyone. Lol

On the bright side if devs will go out and support the Xbone then maybe the Wii U could get ports from it.

@svoulis Your product is inferior to my PC.

It used to matter a lot when everything looked better on Xbox 360. Now that the tables have turned suddenly it doesn't matter anymore???

I don't care about graphics or price. Still getting PS4.

It sure as hell mattered to a lot of Xbot 360 fanboys when websites like The Lens of Truth would do those side by side comparisons of PS3/360 versions. Funny how suddenly graphics don't matter anymore now that the PS4 is clearly the more powerful console.

Haha oh this article is epic.

I mean he spends the first half of it dodging the bullet about PS4 being more powerful. You can tell he just wants to say look, PS4 is way faster and that's why this difference is like this.

But he goes ummm, Mmm. Ahhh y know, we might have just gone down different paths and this is what we ended up with, like Xbox one can change down the years it will be years before we know etc etc

Lol. Avoiding the fact on launch PS4 version batters Xbox one.

The poor guy knows COD is affiliated with Xbox branding heavily so is doing his very best to avoid outright saying the PS4 version is better visually directly although he admits it indirectly.

I didn't compare nothing but prices. 3 copies on 3 platforms for only $70 bucks

Does it matter?

Did it matter this gen, or the last one?

Yes.

Let's try an analogy here..

If you had a choice between two girls both of whom are rich, beautiful, sexy, confident, intelligent, nice personality, amazing conversationalist, wonderful laugh, good in bed, easy to get along, can click with your family and friends, which one are you going to choose ?

No wait scrap that...i know you're going to just turn it around anyway.

One platform offers a better experience than the other, and now you're saying it doesn't matter. I wonder what would have been if the situation was turned around ? See it at face value...your thinking is totally out of whack. Just say it, you're a xbone fan and an MS apologist like the majority of the freaking gaming media.

MS should just change their Xbone motto to "Resolutions Don't Matter"

@CerebralAssassin

Lets be honest, graphics do matter. If they didn't we would all be sticking with our PS3's and 360's. I can't think of any feature that the new systems offer that would warrant spending $500- $600 aside from a huge graphics jump.

"it’s a balancing act when you get into optimisation"

I guess MS didn't balance the xbox well enough as they said.

It matters because Microsoft has been overselling XBONE with claims of "the power of the clouds" "eSRAM is the answer" "dirext x11 sets us apart" to cover up the fact that they bet the farm on kinect 2.0 and the tv/multi tasking integration.. Those gambles are taxing an already dated ram setup.. Sony chose to focus on gaming giving their rig a beefy gddr5 setup which the customized to handle processing duties resulting in a better setup for gaming.. Microsoft has gone for gimmick over gaming and they are paying for it..

"graphics do matter. If they didn't we would all be sticking with our PS3's and 360's. I can't think of any feature that the new systems offer that would warrant spending $500- $600 aside from a huge graphics jump."

Hit the nail on the head. Last generation everyone wanted true real native 1080p gaming especially since the entire market have been selling us 1080p TVs for the past 8 years. But it wasn't truly possible (for a majority of games) on the current hardware. (Minus the PC master race of course)

Now that new consoles will arrive to fulfill that, only one system is going to meet that demand. And we know which system that is...........

Wii U.

(Just in case you missed the joke, I obviously mean the PS4)

Too right dude.

The last thing going through my head while I'm getting creamed for the 50th time is, "wow that texture looks really low res, wish I'd bought the PS4 version to really appreciate the quality".

However, not sure about counter-strike though. I used to hammer that years ago and it was the best thing at the time. I played it recently on steam and had to rip my eyes out as it looked pretty poo. Thats probably why it runs like a champ. Hell, I bet my wind-up watch could knock out 60frames at 1080p running counter-strike :-)

Well said man, graphics don't mean anything, game-play is a lot more important.

It sure as hell mattered when xbox 360 was lead platform....and lazy developers portred over the games to PS3. (NOW GRAPHICS AND FRAME RATE DONT MATTER...LOL)

-no fanboy, just sayin.

@mister dog

your probably going to experience the "wish I'd bought the PS4" feeling as soon as you leave the store with your x1.

@tonywood. You no idea how I felt about this generation so dont generalize me as a fanboy. Both systems looked good. For the most part they look the same. The graphics werent deal breaking then. They arent deal breaking now.

It's useless at this point. If they can't comprehend the camera removed would lower the price they wont understand it cost more to include the kinect.

@NarooN if you think anyone forces you to buy stuff, my advice would be to grow a back bone and buy only what you feel comfortable with.

It's not the camera. That thing costs about as much as the retail price of the PSeye to build.

MS CHOSE to make a profit out the gate as well as multiple partnerships with NFL, EA, Activision, and various TV companies and Xbox gamers get to pay for that.

I'm amazed at how many people are foolish enough to believe that camera is the reason why the weaker console is $100 more.

So without the camera, the console is still the same price as it's more powerful counterpart complete with cheaper parts and a cheaper build.

It all falls on the fact that MS wants a profit now and there's a good chance that decision to force the cost on gamers will bite them in the ass once more of the ignorant masses figure out they are being scammed.

@falviousuk

I'm gonna copy and paste my reply to Death, because it also directly applies to you. I'll spend the bubble on it...

"But have they shown any games that really take advantage of Kinect? I mean justify your purchase however you want, I don't care what people spend their money on. But c'mon, they spent more money building that damn camera than the console and it already shows. Personally I don't see why the camera makes it okay to have the lesser version of games. They haven't shown anything useful enough to justify gimping games over in my opinion. Way too much tech in that damn thing that goes unseen by the people who are actually buying it."

Who cares? Xbox gamers care!

It has very little to due with CoD lack of popularity.

It's the fact that a graphically unimpressive game, that we don't care for, it having troubles that makes us concern what may happen to titles we're more interested in.

Thankfully the BF4 disparity isn't as large, but what will happen with Destiny, and the following years multiplats

I'll say it again...I didn't buy a 1080p TV for nothing. PC has set the bar on graphics, PS4 is setting the bar in consoles right now till Xbox can prove it can keep up. We can debate features and what not but at the end of the day we buy consoles to play great games.

@falviousuk

-when I read your pathetic comment, all I can think of is http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Reputa...

@BX81

Lolwat? I never said anything about being forced to buy a system. I was clearly talking about how there's no way to buy an X1 (a new one, anyway) without having to pay for the camera itself. If it weren't for the camera being mandatory, the system would be launching at the same price of the PS4.

Because it is part of the System, NarooN.

Just because you don't like, or don't want it, that doesn't mean squat.

They are making a product, and their product includes a Kinect camera, PERIOD.

It's not being FORCED on anyone. It's part of the system, and it is up to you to decide if you want the system or not, KNOWING FULL WELL that Kinect is part of the deal.

I don't understand these arguments at all.

Maybe I want a PS4 that only plays games. I don't want to do Netflix, or listen to music, or browse the internet. I ONLY want to play games.

Does that mean I should bitch about Sony forcing me to pay for all of these extra features that I don't want and won't use? I should be able to buy a PS4 for 300 dollars that only plays games, right? It's my right as a consumer to demand that a product be tailored exactly to my specific wants and needs and to hell everyone else, right?

No, because that would be stupid. And yet it is the exact same thing you are all doing when you talk about Kinect being "forced" on you.

It's ridiculous. I can't believe there is one person still putting up a fight over this, much less dozens of you.

It's part of the package, and that's that. End of argument.

I'm not saying you have to like it. You don't. Just like you don't have to BUY it.

@UnHoly_One

Dude, your argument about netflix and what-not are totally invalid. You don't have to pay for netflix unless you are actually paying for netflix, you don't have to pay to use the app on the PS4. They're ONLY charging you to PLAY online, not to go online, that's M$ doing that. Plus all the free to play games coming to the PS4 are going to be 100% free. Online or not you can play them totally free without plus. Look it up before you pop off about it :)

Fenome you need to read people's comments before you post next time.

I didn't say anything about paying to use Netflix.

The analogy I used involved the cost of the console if it ONLY played games.

You don't believe they could make a cheaper PS4 if the only thing it did was play games, and nothing else?

@UnHoly_One

I did read your comment and that is how it sounded to me at first, but after re-reading with better clarification I do apologize. I get what you're saying now. I thought you meant they were stuck behind a pay-wall. I see what you mean now.

Edit:

People can buy whatever they want, I'm not trying to bash. So many people on here just kind of make stuff up sometimes or are actually just misinformed. Especially about pay-walls and stuff, sometimes it gets annoying, so I guess I might be a little too quick to try to squash stuff :p

No worries, I wish everyone was as rational about it as you seem to be!

No one asked for a dam camera .. and as some1 investing in ps4 i hate to know that xbox will hold malti-plat games once more

@UnHoly_One - You are making a bad analogy. The kinnect is an accessory as you have seen Microsoft state it can be disconnected from the system because it doesn't need it to function. They are forcing the consumer to by the accessory that is not needed for the system to function whether they will use it on not.

It's like Microsoft are saying: You want to play the new Xbox? Well, you have to buy kinnect.

"Extra Features" such as Netflix and Hulu+ cost you nothing upfront. They are implemented usually at the cost of the company i.e. "Netflix" as another way to get more people to subscribe to their service.

Now do you see why your analogy was horrible?

@black0o

You wrote "No one asked for a dam camera .. and as some1 investing in ps4 i hate to know that xbox will hold malti-plat games once more"

I have no idea if you're stealth trolling or just misinformed, but it's been confirmed that the PS4 has the better versions of multi-plat games so far. It even mentions this in the article that we're commenting on, did you bother to read it?

1OddWorld my analogy is fine, you are just being closed minded.

@Unholy_one

It's already known that Kinect is NOT part of the system. It can be disconnected entirely, not mandatory.

Just admit it, Kinect is just another peripheral MS is trying to shove down everyone's throat!

Now, they are paying for it in several ways. Kinect take 10% of the (weak) GPU, The system is underperforming and it's 100 bucks more than its direct competitor.

@Unholy_one. Your analogy is terrible and I will tell you why.. including netflix and hulu and all of ther other apps isn't increasing the price of the PS4 but Kinect has increased the price of the One and there is no option to buy it without kinect.. Therefore those that dont want kinect its either pay more for a weaker console or dont get it at all.. Its an all or nothing proposition ie anti consumer decision so they can justify kinect.. the fact that you and death cannot grasp this concept says alot about your console allegiance..

And BF4?

And once the hordes of PS4 titles that will have better effects or higher resolutions than the Xbone version come out, what sneaking suspicion will you have then?

I'm curious how the next season of "FaceOff" will turn out. I guess same as usual. One sentence - or maybe two - expressing the Playstation advantage followed by 2 paragraphs why it actually doesn't matter - 99% of the time. While if the Playstation is performing worse, it will be 80% article why it performs bad with the conclusion that the XBox version is the one to get.

Hm...these guys from DF should get a raise. Because this season will be infinite more hard work than it was before.