The desire to get others as salty as possible does seem to be the actual goal here. Its not about supporting devs or actually enjoying a GOOD game. Its all about trying to trigger people so you can convince yourself you have something someone else wants. I think its great someone bought some games on XBox for this one week. Xbox was always in every possible universe going to outsell physical PC copies. Now go enjoy the game!
PC is 100% digital sales pmsl 🤣😂 It's scary how many gamers have disagreed with others stating PC is all digital. Surely they know that's a thing for decades haha
1 massive, eagerly awaited game from a highly acclaimed studio doesn't exactly change the narrative, bethesda games have always sold like hot cakes.
It's the exception not the rule at this point but either way very happy to see people buying the game enjoying my time with it so far, vanguard questline was pretty cool.
they generally don't though, whether you want to admit that or not, I'm a prime example of an xbox gamer that outside of gamepass i try to spend little else and use that money to buy games on other platforms. In saying that i purchased the premium upgrade for early access for starfield.
Like I said 1 massive game doest change the narrative or the actual fact that most games don't sell well on xbox, that's literally a fact lol
Ps. How you finding starfield so far? If ur into forza maybe we can link up and play when that drops!
Agreed. I use my XBSX for GP only. I mostly buy physical copies of games for my PS5 & every now & then for my Switch. I'm playing the Vanguard side quest now & it's interesting.
"1 massive, eagerly awaited game from a highly acclaimed studio doesn't exactly change the narrative, bethesda games have always sold like hot cakes."
Well, it certainly was a major blow at people expecting this game to fail both on sales and critical acclaim because it´s an Xbox exclusive.
Xbox gamers don´t play RPG games = false. Xbox gamers don´t buy games because of Gamepass = false. PC gamers won´t buy Starfield because of Gamepass = false. Starfield won´t move Xbox consoles = false. Bethesda needs Playstation to successful = false. Bethesda games will be worse under Xbox because of Gamepass = false
Those are the narratives debunked by Starfield as of now.
If it´s really an exception or a new trend, we´ll find out very soon as Forza Motorsport is just around the corner.
Technically you are on to something. I also don't think every AAA release won't chart like this. Highly anticipated games like Forza and Halo charted now this game. Redfall flopped hard obviously.
Will something like Avowed or chart? If the game is very good plus with great marketing then I'd say yes It depends on the quality. Being a new IP is always hard so whom knows for Avowed.
Before I start congrats and SF is very good game but; Don't all the Xbox gamers on here say GP is better than ps plus because of free day1 1st party, also moaning about £70 games yet go out and pay £100 for early access premium edition. Slightly odd and just goes to show when games do eventually reach these premium prices as standard we will pay it. Great stategy from a business perspective, but moving FWD Xbox will do this premium early play strategy from now and the Xbox gamers will lap it up even though they ripped into playstation games price hike of £70. So we're happy with buying £100 premium game to play it 1week early now are we ? Sony will be looking at this and going ohh they don't mind, I can guarantee Sony will follow suit so all our AAA 1st party playstation games will become £100 to play it 1 week early I can guarantee this will become a thing now and mostly likely have your stories ruined by gamers who play it early rather than wait a week for the normal price. Feel free if I've got that all wrong and looking to much into it.
Btw nice of you to run away and block me when I schooled in the DM's most ppl do when I embarrass them so don't feel to bad. Funny because you DM me first then I shut you down.
Anyway.
"but moving FWD Xbox will do this premium early play strategy from now and the Xbox gamers will lap it up even though they ripped into playstation games price hike of £70. So we're happy with buying £100 premium game to play it 1week early now are we ?"
There's also a little thing called options. Either pay for the 100 for early access or wait for the full release. Not hard to understand.
"I can guarantee Sony will follow suit so all our AAA 1st party playstation games will become £100 to play it 1 week early I can guarantee this will become a thing now and mostly likely have your stories ruined by gamers who play it early rather than wait a week for the normal price. Feel free if I've got that all wrong and looking to much into it."
So you show concern for something like this but made excuses for PSN+ going up? Even if they did something like this why would you be so concerned suddenly? You never fought back against other things going up so why start there?
I'll say no Sony will not charge a 100$ for 5 day early access. The reason MS is doing this to generate more profits from first party releases. I don't think every 1st party will be early access like Flight Simulator. Hell Blade 2? Maybe. Avowed? Probably not. Gears 6 most definitely whenever thats announced however I think Fable will be the next game to get that SF like push and do early access. I think it'll only work for those big anticipated AAA releases.
"So we're happy with buying £100 premium game to play it 1week early now are we ?"
Now? No offence, but I don´t think you´re up to date with things regarding Xbox lately.
Early access via Premium Editions for Xbox games is not something new, as Forza Horizon 5 had it, people happily paid £100 for it and the launch was pretty successful.
And yes, I paid for Starfield´s Premium Edition not only to get early access and Shattered Space, but also a physical copy to fill my future stellbook from the Constelation Edition.
"Feel free if I've got that all wrong and looking to much into it."
Can´t really tell if you´re right or wrong. In on hand, there´s clearly a demand from PS fans to be granted early access for upcoming Playstation games. On the other hand, Sony is well aware of both Forza Horizon 5 and Starfield´s early access success via Premium Editions, and yet, Spider Man 2 won´t have it.
So I think we´ll have to wait and see how future unfolds.
@Obscure, I suggest xbox fans drop the persecution complex. Xbox gamers do not buy games in the amount they use to years ago, this is a fact. Even Microsoft has stated that gamepass has impacted the purchasing habits of xbox console owners.
"The game is on the lips of everyone from journalists, gamers, developers, and even the haters."
Definitely the most talk about game in the generation so far and, probably will be the most talk about new IP in the generation as well.
Xbox just got another successful and amazing new IP for its portfolio, which i´ll definitely increase the overall quality of the new games since it´s going to stimulate friendly competition among Xbox´s first party studios as a whole.
Phil definitely nailed acquiring Bethesda among other RPG studios making Xbox the more genre diverse platform as far first party games are concerned.
If it didn't debut at No.1 it would've been a total failure. There is no other new game of interest for the UK crowd. I hope when we get the numbers, that it's actually great sales as well, and not just "it was #1 because no other games selling right now". However, as Hogwarts Legacy still is the game up top (just behind Starfield now), and that game ain't selling more than 10-15k copies/week, we actually have no idea how good the sales of Starfield, in UK was/is.
I still doubt Starfield will be a multi million seller as all their previous games, because of GamePass.
I'm buying gamepass for two months, playing it as much as possible and will try out some Lies of P and Forza at the side in these two months. Then probably burn out on Starfielf for now and will then be buying it when it gets cheap later on.
They aren't releasing specific numbers. They just say 6 million played the game, but the only evidence we have is that 330k people actually bought the game on Steam. There's a ton of nonsense surrounding this game and not to mention most streamers hate it.
This is a case of people starved for Bethesda content and they will eat any slop thrown on the plate. It's a bit rude to their fans, I would imagine. I felt the same way with Cyberpunk when it first released and I supported the sleaze anyway.
No, most streamers doesn't hate the game. If you chose only to watch fanboys, yeah, the streamers YOU watch might "hate" the game. However, most of the streamers seems to agree this ain't a 9 or 10/10 game, but more in range 7-8/10 but still fun enough to stick around with.
And that's exactly how I feel as well.
Your comments regarding Starfield is making even us Sony fans annoyed by your upcoming comments. Play some games instead of crying about Starfield.
Hate isn't as strong a word as it used to be, anything below a 9 has been coined as "hate" for starfield ,so although his use of the word conjures up extreme feelings i think he's just using it because said streamers don't agree with the 10/10's so prevelant during the honeymoon period. Apparently you are hating on it with 7-8/10, silly I know but it is what it is, enjoy the game my friend
Yeah... his whole rhetoric is getting tiresome. If you see a Starfield article, you can guarantee he will be in it, copy pasting the same comment. We should just start reporting him as spam.
Dude, just let people enjoy games. If you don't like a game, you don't need to spam about it. Doesn't matter if it's Sony, Xbox or Nintendo, just leave it out.
It's amazing that one game has to disprove so many known facets of a console and every owner of said console have to hang on it like a raft. My question is what's after Starfield? And more importantly, when?
Racing games are an olive branch in this brutal console wars, yes we'll here which is better from the usual crowds but in all honesty gt7 and forza are both wonderful additions to both console line ups
Forza has a road map so there's that, avowed and hellblade has been dangled before your eyes since 2020, an update to flight simulator, really, and when last was there a good Indiana Jones game, maybe 2001?
One title that's going to increase the gap even further; Spiderman 2. Enough said. After that I'm prepping for FF7 Rebirth. Wouldn't trade these titles for anything on your list.
Please take the salt else where lol. Let xbox gamers enjoy starfield and the upcoming games while you enjoy Spiderman. It's like you trying to convince yourself xbox has nothing and ps everything. It's okay to be a fan of 1 thing and think the rivals have something interesting too.
You´d asked about what´s next after Stafield and I´d gave you an answer. Since you didn´t like my response stating a fact that there´s plenty of first party games coming to Xbox in a year or so, you went into some insecure fanboy nonsense. Smh.
My friend you are in what we call extreme denial and Stockholme Syndrome. MS shot its load with Starfield and whilst it's good, its not killer app good. You can now return to grinding your teeth as the clock counts down to Spiderman and FF Rebirth to name just two heavy hitters. But hey, to each his own.
I'm loving this game. Definitely one of the best ever. Huge win for Microsoft. Congrats to Phil for making this happen for xbox gamers. Game of the year for sure.
I wonder why with Diablo 4 they highlight that other games launched better this year and with FFXVI they mention that FFXV sold better...but with starfield they just say the xbox version outsold the PC version(and are PC versions even sold physically anymore?).
No comparisons to past Bethesda games(i guess fallout 76 had a better launch to no mention it) or to other launches this year(Hogwarts Legacy, The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, Resident Evil 4 remake, Final Fantasy XVI, and Dead Island 2 had better launches).
Game industry biz was ruthlessly attacked by xbox fans the last "negative " article they wrote during the hearings over the abk deal. They immediately backed off and seem to handle all xbox related topics with kid gloves since then.
Congrats to Bethesda. I’m enjoying how open and unpredictable the game can be. I haven’t even ventured off to the main quest. I keep getting sucked into side quests lol.
And he knows absolutely nothing about that. If Starfield sold more than 5 million (which FFXVI did in days) we would've heard it. Instead we heard that 6 million have played Starfield.
I can almost guarantee that Starfield haven't, and won't sell more than FFXVI, mainly because it's on GamePass.
Dismantling false narratives about Xbox gamers that don´t buy games because of Gamepass.
Congratulations goes to everyone at Bethesda and Team Xbox for this amazing game which is nothing but a success made an instant classic!
Man, this game is massive, MS and Bethesda must be celebrating this big win.
The game is on the lips of everyone from journalists, gamers, developers, and even the haters.
If it didn't debut at No.1 it would've been a total failure.
There is no other new game of interest for the UK crowd.
I hope when we get the numbers, that it's actually great sales as well, and not just "it was #1 because no other games selling right now".
However, as Hogwarts Legacy still is the game up top (just behind Starfield now), and that game ain't selling more than 10-15k copies/week, we actually have no idea how good the sales of Starfield, in UK was/is.
I still doubt Starfield will be a multi million seller as all their previous games, because of GamePass.
Grats for de throning hogwarts legacy (released feb 2023) and mario kart 8 deluxe (released april 2017).
This is a massive win for MS.
In my logic, I would also BUY big RPGs on Xbox rather than pay 3 months of GP and loose access to it if I stop paying.
Modding is gonna bring this game to another lv.
This Bethesda game design is like McDonald's of gaming.
It's old and dated, but it just works.
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