Why is giving a 1 review bombing, but giving a 10 is normal?
Starfield is not a 10 and not a 1, everyone knows that.
In the end, the score will end up exactly as it should be and as the game deserves. And, quite frankly... a 6.5 on average is what I would give it as well. (Perhaps a 7.)
Space Exploration minus the real exploration. Fast Travel / Loading screen simulator.
In 2 months, this game will have died out just like fallout 76 did and will only have a small portion gamers left.
Wtf?! Dude your the one that's drunk in your own foxhole...a 8?? Lmao you have lost it. This game is at least a solid 5 maybe even a 6 but it damn sure ain't no 8. 😂
You're on N4G the most delusional bunch of day laborers and hourly workers out there. Completely useless bunch of people to use for any type of metric other than low functioning statistics.
The review bombing at Metacritic and the typical comments here at N4G, is pretty much what I expected to happen for Starfield, tbh. Nothing surprising. And the cycle will continue once Spider-Man 2 drops. Somethings never change.
Most gamers take there time imo and not rush through it in weekend and be done with it. Normally takes me a week then another week for a replay if I liked it enough on a harder difficulty and mop up some trophies. 2 months seems a bit long but I can see a month for those who work long hours etc.
Lmao just come out and admit you haven't played Starfield if you're giving it a 6.5. It's just Sony fans review bombing it because they're salty they can't play it, pretty simple concept.
Pretty sad if you can't see why people would give this game a 6. Its a 6. From everyway I looked at this game its a 6. Its not because its exclusive, I'd highly recommend other exclusives over this. HiFi Rush, Pentiment, even Sea of theives. I have a PC and I could get gamepass to play it...My boy did, but I'm not even wasting the data. But yeah the cities suck ass in Starfield, as well as the AI. People litterally just go about their day if you pull a gun and just shooot up the place, as long as you don't hit a person its all good. Writing is typical bethesda, meaning really bad. When half of the post I see loving starfield is about the potential of mods...yeah its because people expected the game to be shit and fixed up like all the rest of Bethesdas titles.
Every major streamer is calling the game trash, I'm glad this turd isn't on Playstation.
Bethesda is an outdated studio I've said as much in a previous post.there's way to many open world option for Bethesda to continue to make the same game with a different coat of paint.sony has 3 first party open world games Nintendo has Zelda no one needs Bethesda anymore and this was a bad purchase on MS behalf the studio is archaic and irrelevant at best and straight up incompetent at worse.
@Huey_My_D_Long Soooo you admit to not playing the game.. kinda proving my point here. Anyone who actually has played the game and can prove it wanna throw their input in here or is it just gonna be people blindly hating that haven’t touched the game?
@Omnipotent they didn’t play it along with a lot of ppl on here it seems .. lol they’re just mad it didn’t come to their precious PS5 , like usual when Sony doesn’t get a exclusive. They was praising Bethesda when they released Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop when it was an exclusive now suddenly Bethesda plus their games are suddenly trash lmao it’s comical .. I’ve been playing for a few hours and already love the random things that happen plus how open ended the game is , you can pretty much tailor it to how you want the game to turn out.
PC master race and huge Bethesda fan here to say... This game is trash and its gonna be the second BGS game I'm never touching. Seems like they seem hellbent on making bland ass games now, whose only purpose is to waste your time with lazily made everything. But hey, atleast they spent 7 years painstakingly modeling all the different types of turds and trinkets you can pick up instead of making actual good quests, dialogue, combat, etc.
I guess I'll wait for Avowed, Obsidian ironically let me down with The Outer Worlds, but atleast their games have some personality still. Bethesda's writing and overall style has become the stuff of Tylenol nightmares. I feel like they purposefully left the planets and world to look as vanilla and boring as possible to encourage modders to remake them into something better. That's great, but they should start making their own games better rather than relying on modders to do it for free.
@Zeuanimals wow another person who didn’t play it with tons of negatives to say about it; how surprising. Play a game before you judge it or don’t play it and don’t judge it. Game still has very positive reviews on metacritic.
@wiz7191 I don't even own a PS5 and I still think Starfield doesn't look that good, it looks very much like a double edged sword in terms of what I'd like to see in a game of this type. I main my PC and I really can't convince myself to buy this at full price, I've looked at streamers and reviews, and I can't help but think this was over hyped for what it is.
Im wondering if some of the emptiness is to make space (no pun intended) for modders to do their thing without having much in their way. Perhaps development thinking was, “why waste resources, stuffing the world full, when modders are going to do it anyways.” I might be completely full of s*** with that way of thinking.
Exactly what I said. 1000 spam accounts to take down the user score with many joining in on the act. According to the ppl here we should expect the exact same hate and reaction from Xbox fans when Spider-Man 2 releases next month.
You do know Starfield is playable on a lot more than Xbox, right? I'm playing Starfield on my Series X, my PC, my phone and my work laptop. Most people with interest of gaming can actually play the game for $10.
Because the game can be a 10 to someone (like myself) even with some flaws. People who are putting a 1 are either trying to bomb the score or have never played it which some of those reviews literally say they haven't played it.
The minute I see articles referring to "review bombing" I immediately know that the game is actually nothing special, and is performing below expectations. Review bombing is code for the game is perfect, and the mean old customer/gamer is evil and wrong for not liking it. weak and pathetic.
100%....overhyped...thats it....subpar game for this...not bad...but not goo either...onyl for die hard bethesda fan...i would score it 6.In3 months its almost dead.
So far I'd give it an 8. I don't think starfield will die out though. I disagree there. It's a fun game minus your complaints(I agree with the complaints except the loading isn't a huge deal).
Nah some just got burned out of being repeatedly lied to by BGS and their paid media. It's Not review bombing or else I'd already saw Mr.Yong Yea jump at the headline and make a video out of it but ever since he's got big and deeper into part of the industry he gotten much more selective on who to bash he usually quick on something like this but no longer as impartial as he'd liked to. It can't be 9 or 10/10 game with this many issues of course die hard fans would defend it as an early access game but it helps that BGS should at least got the basics down which Starfield didn't especially at full price. Giving early access title this high of a score only makes people assume that it can't get any better or it's too good to be true.
Mr. Yong Yea... Mr. I repeat everything that I say 25 times in one video to make a point of 10 seconds.
You are definitely right though, but YongYea is not the only one. Look at Angry Joe. Mr. I change my opinion standards more often than my clothes based on who I Iike and not.
When I am over the fence to get a game or not, I do ONLY read motly gamers reviews (Screw the biased gaming journalism). I am not a huge fan of Bethesda as I find their games too "blocky" gameplay wise and I feel they seem all created with the same RPG editor ... again my opinion and my taste for games. Once I saw that initial reviews I thought it was too good to be true .... and indeed I was right.
IMO this game is a 7 but let's be absolutely clear here, there is nothing wrong with a 7. This is a fine game but it has it's flaws. As far as Bethesda is concerned it's likely one of their more polished games. Yes, there are a few bugs but for Bethesda that's pretty good. There are a lot of 7 out of 10 games out there that I've had a great time with.
@Rockstar, Review scores tend to be inflated anyway, not everything can be a 9 or 10, otherwise the scores become too meaningless. It's okay for some games to be average or above average, looking at the videos I've seen, I don't think this is up there with the best of the best games.
They are so hurt and I love every tear... its hilarious to see sony try to make starfield exclusive then MS says, naw... hold my beer while we pay for this. Then the gamers cry about MS buying up studios and games like they're the only ones doing it. Look back at Sonys track record and see all the studios they purchased ... The hate is real.
Theres nothing to hate nor envy about the green platform and its games since they're both irrelevant, most dont care and it will continue to be the afterthought around the world that is known for. Stay tuned, Spidey 2 is coming and the massacre will continue;)
Do i need to draw you a picture to help you understand the difference between buying out publishers and buying out studios? And then buying out studios you've built a relationship with vs buying out studios you've never had a partnership with.
Before Bethesda and Activision, MS was on a huge buying spree in any case. Let me know which colours you'd like me to use as i draw you a picture.
They were looking at the game and saw that it was heading for all platforms and they were like "hold my beer, let's make it available for more gamers" then they made sure it released on as few platforms as possible.
No point in explaining why you are an idiot. If you can't see the difference between publishers and studios, thats on you. TBH I wasn't even upset when MS bought Bethesda...Bethesda is a shittly managed company that wouldn't have made it without MS's help. We know this cause Todd said they would'nt have been able to get to ES6 without Selling to MS and if true...makes sense. Only cause Bethesda has rested on its laurels for so fucking long, forgot to innovate the main team, wasted opportunity with its studios, had some of the most egregious lies to fans. Clearly MS couldn't do worse than them, hell I'd even say MS buying Bethesda was a good thing. But activision is way to big of publisher in addition with Bethesda. I'm against industry consolidation as is everyone who supports the games industry. But please get stuck in console war bs over a mid tier game...
I think most Sony fans agree the games good, there just pointing out some of its faults like other Xbox fans are like the map, copy and paste caves and trees, no city map etc resulting in why is it getting 10s, surely you deduct some points for those above mentioned faults which no doubt will get an update and maybe an overhaul to the map etc in an update. It's ok to point out things that could have been done differently or better. The reboot of God of war for instance didn't have enough enemy types imo so I knocked a point off,.some didn't like atreus for instance. Starfield is a solid 8 maybe 8.5, it's not a 9 or 10 just like GoW, tlou, horizon etc are not 10s. I've been gaming since 82 and I've never gave a 10 even to half life, no game is perfect.
I'm only worried about Doom and Quake, but they'll end up on PC anyway like they always have, so no loss for me, I don't really care about the rest of Bethesda's catalogue.
Lots of hardcore Xbox fans have all pointed the faults out too, IE Matty, cog, kfg crew mike, bless, Greg etc. It's a good solid 8 from me, great story which is the most important thing for me to keep me engaged but the map was atrocious, way to much inventory management, the fast travelling setup, gfx alittle all over the place wow 1minute then alittle horrible the nxt (copy and paste trees) repeated copy and paste caves takes 2 points off for me.
@winky007 so you want an honest ok lets put it this way a score 1-5 is review bomber by sony pony and a score 8-10 is score bumper by xboys? so ign and gamespot score are spot on?
Are there more 1's than 10's? I thought not, the game is a 7 or 8 at best, if anything below a 5 is a review bomb then what is a 10? A 9 can still be an honest review, they loved the game but it has numerous flaws but a 10? Cmon we all know those are disingenuous, these flaws aren't subjective, the limited exploration, the constant loading, the generic npc's, in my eyes the 10's should be considered the same as the 1's
I think it's a stretch to call this news when no supporting evidence is offered to substantiate the major claim. Definitions of review bombing vary, but most, if not all, involve an attempt to coordinate multiple reviews to affect an overall score or impression.
The article does more to suggest the criticisms are valid while making no attempt to substantiate the accusation of reviewing bombing. Instead, we get gems like "most of the scores left by disgruntled gamers mainly range between zero and five." You don't say. Disgruntled gamers tended to rate the game on the lower half of the scale? Mind blown.
"I mean you can obviously tell when a review is bombing. 0 is 100% one."
Incorrect, but that's beside the point. The article didn't attempt to make that point. The article did nothing at all beyond make the accusation to substantiate the claim.
From the article:
"Unfortunately, the game’s limitations and exclusivity on Xbox and PC systems, have prompted numerous gamers to start review-bombing it on Metacritic as the game’s overall user score has now dipped to all-time low figures."
The article calls out the games limitations. What it doesn't do is offer anything beyond the accusation to suggest that a single user who scored it between 0 and 5 did so in an attempt to review bomb.
It's worth noting that the Xbox user score (6.4) is higher than the PC user score (5.6), undercutting the "exclusivity" argument. Further undercutting that argument, there are more total mixed user reviews on PC than Xbox and more total negative user reviews on PC than Xbox. However, Xbox has more total positive user reviews than PC. If this is the doing of Sony fans review bombing because SF is console exclusive to Xbox, they're targeting the wrong platform.
How come Christopher is allowed to submit a story about user scores reviewing bombing a game, but other people submit similar stories to N4G and they get failed for them in the past? Hypocritical much.
Videogamer.com now owns N4G and naturally, their articles are allowed to break the rules. It's not fair but ultimately they can do what they want.
Even though I don't always agree with Christopher, he does a great job around here. Unfortunately, his hands are tied on some of these issues (speculation on my part, I don't know for sure)
Videogamer use AI to write articles. It allows the owners to double dip on advertising. It sucks but I can understand their decision making.
I hate seeing reviews deleted, especially if they're legitimate reviews, unfortunately it gets to the point where it's hard to tell what's legitimate and what's a review bomb.
Does that mean PS5 games like Returnal and Horizon are crap too? Because they have lower scores.
Seriously, this site needs to just stop with the Starfield articles. We get it - PS5-only owners are salty. It's actually funny because you guys for years said MS needed to have more exclusives and first party studios. Now you've got your wish.
I don't have an xbox, I have a ps5. I played this game on PC. I couldn't care less that MS paid billions to get exclusive titles. its buggy as heck and is literally Fallout with a ship mini game. I wouldn't give it an 8, 9, or 10. So that means I'm review bombing? Game bugged out and has a tutorial prompt stuck on screen and won't progress, have to restart it 3 times to get the dialogue audio to work. The real score for this game should be a 7, and that's being generous.
The game is boring that’s why the held the embargo to last day and restricted the review copies to selective reviewers… but that ofc won’t help the game in the long run
I don't understand how reviews can give it a 10 and say things like "best Bethesda game since oblivion" you are giving it a perfect score while also saying that a previous game made by them is better while excluding comparisons of games from other developers. 10 means masterpiece, a game that excels at everything it achieves. This game definitely isn't a 10 but close to it
I just take everything into account, it's just as hard to trust professional journalists, sometimes, fair, genuine reviews don't come out until months later.
LOL at the 5 stages of Greef for Starfield being a genuine bad games in 2023.
-Denial: This games is so original and open world. -Anger: There is flaws, but it's a Bethesda game. -Bargaining: ONLY Sony fans give bad review while modders are busy patching the game. -Depression: The Outer Worlds and No man sky already exist, why is this game not better? -Acceptance: It's Morrowind 4 with a space vibe mod and a loading screen mini-game where you pretend to space travel.
All my condolences to Xbox fans.
[ You really feel that a stranger that give you ( it's a loan! ) his ship and a robot for free because you watch a short 2000 style .avi with meaningless stars and bright lines is good story telling? The artifact was just rocks in the middle of a room. Come on, I know Bethesda can do better! ]
I never ever look at silly 1/10 reviews from users. It's very rare a proper ass game deserves that. Not even Redfall deserves that.
For me so far I would say a 6 or a 7 is fair. I'm very disappointed in the space combat and anything to do with space in the game. The combat is typical fallout combat witch is fine by me. Gameplay is fine. Story is dragging so far but imo Bethesda story telling has always been meh.
Its goty material/canditant for sure. Theres more positive reviews but ofc bombing 1's for a new game lower the score. How petty can playstation community be? I have ps5 and psvr2 myself but i dont want to be a part of this community mentality. It only prove how frustrated your are of not getting starfield.
"How petty can playstation community be? I have ps5 and psvr2 myself but i dont want to be a part of this community mentality. It only prove how frustrated your are of not getting starfield."
Was the PS community so frustrated they review bombed the wrong platform?
A greater percentage of user reviews on PC are mIxed than on Xbox. A greater percentage of user reviews on PC are negative than on Xbox. A greater number of user reviews on PC are mixed than on Xbox. A greater number of user reviews on PC are negative than on Xbox. A greater percentage of user reviews on Xbox are positive than on PC. A greater number of user reviews on Xbox are positive than on PC. There is a greater discrepancy between critic and user score on PC than on Xbox.
Im a playstation fan. Love the ps5. Also own a capable gaming pc and series s. Thing is people like you always assume it's playstation fans that are review bombing.
I have played it on 3 different platforms. Pc with a 3070. Xbox series s, xcloud. Xcloud has actually been the least problematic for me. Pc version performance is all over the place. Series s version dips below 30fps. Xcloud runs fine with the odd dip in FPS.
But imo the actual space part is absolutely useless other than some generic boring space battles.
The main quest so far is just so boring to me. I have found that side quests are more interesting. Gameplay i can't complain about it's just Fallout 4 combat with the same animations.
But guess since I'm not finding it all that great and didn't understand the hype train I'm review bombing. Because I happen to also own a playstation along with other consoles?
Watch the digital foundry video the bloke is getting emotional about a "steady "and consistent " 30 FPS on series X and as he's gushing it drops to 26 FPS but hey it's a steady 26 FPS and a feature not a constraint all you salty jealous PS fanboys 🙄
Don’t always like Echelon but he said it best. The game isn’t worth all the nonsense happening. It’s a “decent” by the numbers Bethesda RPG. Which means definitely fun to be had, but very outdated in a lot of its design and execution. If you’re enjoying it, cool. If not, cool. But this game is not worth all this melodramatic warfare nonsense. It’s just that there’s so much extra crap attached to this game, so much “game-political” nonsense that many people are losing all sense of objectivity. It’s not about enjoyment, or actual appraisal, it’s about winning some kind of fight. Cuz somehow they got their identity all wrapped up in gaming.
Well speaking as someone whose mind was completely blown open when I first booted up Morrowind and saw what was possible in games. Bethesda was my favorite game studio, literally nobody made games like they did. But ever since Morrowind they've moved further and further away from the things that I enjoyed and that I think makes a good game/RPG. Now, they don't even bother making their games fun or truly unique cause modders can just do that for them, that's probably why the game looks like a blank canvas.
I don't understand how people don't understand how some can be disappointed with the direction that studio's going. The same studio that made Fallout 76 and charges for paid mods that are worse than the free mods the community makes.
Yeah the memberberries are pulling a lot of weight for Bethesda. We have such fond memories, and hindsight is through rose colored glasses. So it would be hard to live up to our memory of things like Skyrim and Morrowind even if the new projects were just as good. Which they are not.
Review bombing or now that the game has moved beyond Microsoft’s PR, we are getting real reviews? I do think users should stop using 1 and 10 as their only scores. If you want everyone else to show integrity, you need to.
@omnipotent you don't have to roll in sh!t to know that it's a bad idea just saying.
Brain dead Ai, loading screen after loading screen nothing is seamless, bugs and glitches all over the place, bad and lifeless character models that looked rip from fallout 4 with a resolution bump, no actual space exploration, can't fly your ship other then in tightly confined boxes, repeated tile sets on multiple worlds even down to enemy placement, no land vehicles, can't surface fly your ship, invisible walls everywhere and that's just the surface level.
Why would I need to spend 70 bucks to experience this, do enlighten us jelly ps fans?
I watched asmongold stream this game and it's mid anybody giving this game anything above a 7 is foS.
There’s a lot of good stuff in the game, but it is often obscured underneath a layer of absolutely terrible QOL decisions, lack of proper explanations, and the baffling choice to not give us frickin’ maps! So, I can’t argue with those who give it a 7/10, or even a 6/10. But having said that, I’ve had a ton of fun playing this 6/10 game so far, and I look forward to putting many more hours into it. My personal score would be: 8/10. And yes, that’s with all the frustrations, of which there are many.
lol I think its a pretty good game, I'd give it an 8.5/10 Im most likely a more hardcore Playstation fan than any of these kids also. People are crazy, I kind of remember something similar with Fallout 4 on release with being just being angry at the game.
We know people are upset because they want Bethesda to change. They want Bethesda games to meet the industry standard in visuals, story, writing and presentation. But its not going to happen. Bethesda stick their guns. But humans are a fickle race. With starfield, you cant trust this disharmonious chaos of these comments sections. Play the game for yourselves, and try to look past ones own bias’ and ask: what did this game do well that the other games do not?
For me it's a 7.5. The space loading screen nonsense really takes me out of the game. Other than that I'm having a lot of fun. I don't know why some of the ponies feel the need to do this.
The game is way overhyped, plus it's just shit in terms of PC optimization. They need modders to fix their mess, pretty pathetic. No HDR, no FOV slider, no DLSS, AF is broken as well if you force it in your control panel. If modders can do a better job I question where my money should go. I would not take it for free. (which you can on PC)
People can think what they want, but I know for a fact that 90 percent of the review bombs (I consider that anything under a 7) are from people who either haven’t played it at all or only a few hours.
Also everyone knows that meta critic has never been been reliable. Open critic is a much more honest review site. I would like someone to be honest and admit that if this game was multiplat the narrative would be considerably different.
I’m all for an honest review from someone who put the time into it and critiqued it fairly whether good or bad, but any one with integrity should admit that no other Bethesda title (which were all multiplat) has ever received this sort of vitriol which is weird because it’s by far the least buggy and best looking game they’ve ever made. Also, the best main story of any of their games.
I’ve played all fallouts and elder scrolls games so yes I’ve played thousands of hours of their games. Maybe I just prefer scifi, but none of the elder scrolls games had great main stories. Fallout 3 and new Vegas were good story wise, but I just thought the story in starfield was stellar. Also what they’ve done with the new game plus was very cool as well, to me anyway.
Why is giving a 1 review bombing, but giving a 10 is normal?
Starfield is not a 10 and not a 1, everyone knows that.
In the end, the score will end up exactly as it should be and as the game deserves.
And, quite frankly... a 6.5 on average is what I would give it as well. (Perhaps a 7.)
Space Exploration minus the real exploration.
Fast Travel / Loading screen simulator.
In 2 months, this game will have died out just like fallout 76 did and will only have a small portion gamers left.
Nah some just got burned out of being repeatedly lied to by BGS and their paid media.
It's Not review bombing or else I'd already saw Mr.Yong Yea jump at the headline and make a video out of it but ever since he's got big and deeper into part of the industry he gotten much more selective on who to bash he usually quick on something like this but no longer as impartial as he'd liked to.
It can't be 9 or 10/10 game with this many issues of course die hard fans would defend it as an early access game but it helps that BGS should at least got the basics down which Starfield didn't especially at full price.
Giving early access title this high of a score only makes people assume that it can't get any better or it's too good to be true.
Read the reviews and the critisms seem legit overall.
let's be honest
the true source of this bombing is from fanboys who are upset about the ms-bethesda merger and the exclusivity of starfield to xbox.
1/10? really? 5-9 is more realistic.